#14: Fredric Dannen, New York Times Best Selling Author of The Hitmen. The book that shook the music industry.

Loading player...
Sold 4 a Song™ isn’t just a podcast — it’s a revolution for undervalued creatives. Hosted by Terrance Sawchuk, Billboard #1 writer & multi-platinum producer, each episode helps you rewrite your story from undervalued to unstoppable.

To go deeper, join Terry at TerranceSawchuk.com 

👉 Watch for announcements for my Free Webinar coming in January 2026. 

#songwriters, #musicindustry, #livenation, #ticketmaster, #streaming #royalties, #independentartists, #musiccreators, #fanconnection, #artistfanrelationship, #musicbusinesstruth, #copyrightboard, #Spotifypayouts, #Thanksgivingspecial, #behind themusicindustry, #Sold4aSong

What really happens when the mafia, major labels, and radio money all collide?

In this episode of $old 4 a $ong, Terry sits down with legendary investigative journalist Fredric Dannen, author of Hit Men: Power Brokers and Fast Money Inside the Music Business—the book that pulled the curtain back on payola, the mob, and the hidden forces shaping what makes it onto the airwaves.

Fredric shares the real story behind the infamous Pink Floyd “Another Brick in the Wall” experiment, how a handful of “independent promoters” (with documented mob ties) could stop a hit record cold, and why labels willingly fed tens of millions of dollars into a system that often worked more like extortion than promotion.

They dig into:

How Hit Men nearly got blocked by Clive Davis—and why that backfired spectacularly

The mafia-connected “Network” that controlled Top 40 radio in the late ’70s and ’80s

Stories of Morris Levy, Michael Jackson’s team, and artists like Pink Floyd, The Who, Earth, Wind & Fire, and more

The uncomfortable truth about race records, R&B, and how genre labels tracked skin color, not sound

Fredric’s work freeing an innocent man from a Texas prison and why that fight for justice led him to live in Mexico

How his reporting helped inspire Eliot Spitzer’s modern payola crackdown

If you’ve ever wondered why truly great music doesn’t always rise to the top—or why the people who create the value get paid last—this conversation is mandatory listening.

👉 If this episode lights a fire in you, don’t let it fade. Follow/subscribe to $old 4 a $ong, leave a review, and share this with one artist or songwriter who needs to hear it.

To go deeper into ownership, leverage, and building an artist life on your terms, visit TerranceSawchuk.com and join the movement.
7 Dec 2025 English Explicit United States Music Interviews · Courses

Other recent episodes

#21: Wht It Is Illegal For Songwriters to Form A Union

In this episode of Sold 4 a Song, Terrance Sawchuk answers the question why do musicians, singers, actors, directors, producers, screenwriters, even stagehands,have unions… but songwriters don’t? In this episode of Sold for a Song, Terry Sawchuk breaks down a truth that shocks many creators: songwriters are legally prohibited from…
6 Feb 25 min

#20: The Rhythm of My Heart with Marc Jordan

In this episode of Sold 4 a Song, Terrance Sawchuk sits down with legendary songwriter Mark Jordan, the creator of “Rhythm of My Heart” and a writer whose songs have been recorded by Diana Ross, Rod Stewart, Joe Cocker, Manhattan Transfer, Bonnie Raitt, Cher, and more. Mark shares the untold…
6 Jan 57 min

#22: When Music Stopped Being The Product

In this episode of Sold 4 a Song, Terrance Sawchuk answers the question why do musicians, singers, actors, directors, producers, screenwriters, even stagehands,have unions… but songwriters don’t? In this episode of Sold for a Song, Terry Sawchuk breaks down a truth that shocks many creators: songwriters are legally prohibited from…
6 Feb 8 min

#19: 2025 Year In Review

Keywords music industry, artists, copyright, AI, sustainability, ownership, creativity, fan relationships, digital age, music therapy Summary In this episode of 'Sold for a Song', Terry Sawchuk discusses the evolving landscape of the music industry, emphasizing the importance of artists owning their copyright and data. He reflects on the past year,…
6 Jan 13 min

#18: Dr. Connie Tomaino, Music Therapy and Neurologic Function

In this episode, Terry sits down with Dr. Concetta “Connie” Tomaino — co-founder and Executive Director of the Institute for Music and Neurologic Function (IMNF) — for a mind-opening conversation on the true value of music far beyond streaming numbers. They break down how music actually engages the brain, why…
6 Jan 56 min